pthoko
07-05 03:07 PM
Hi All,
Please clarify my doubts if you can.
The G-325A form is asking for dates of previous employment. I have an issue here.....
I did an L1 to H1 transfer in 2005. My L1 was valid till APRIL 2006. So my intention was to work with L1 employer till April 2006 and then switch to H1 employer.
H1 employer also applied for a change of status, I was not aware of the whole status issue that time. I asked the H1 company's lawyer whether I could continue with my L1 employer after getting the H1 and she said it's fine.
So I got the H1B approval in Oct 2005, but still continued with L1 employer till APRIL 2006, then switched to H1.
Recently I came to know that this could be an issue. When I was filling the G-325A form, I wondered if I specify that I worked with the L1 employer till APRIL 2006, would they catch this?? Even if they catch , how big an issue would this be??
If I put the dates to reflect the dates to show that I quit my L1 employer in Oct 2005 itself, would this be an issue?? I guess in this case, if by any chance they ask for any further evidence like pay stubs or W2 in that period of time, I would be in trouble.
Any advice is appreciated. I'm afraid to talk about this to my current company attorney....
Thanks.
Please clarify my doubts if you can.
The G-325A form is asking for dates of previous employment. I have an issue here.....
I did an L1 to H1 transfer in 2005. My L1 was valid till APRIL 2006. So my intention was to work with L1 employer till April 2006 and then switch to H1 employer.
H1 employer also applied for a change of status, I was not aware of the whole status issue that time. I asked the H1 company's lawyer whether I could continue with my L1 employer after getting the H1 and she said it's fine.
So I got the H1B approval in Oct 2005, but still continued with L1 employer till APRIL 2006, then switched to H1.
Recently I came to know that this could be an issue. When I was filling the G-325A form, I wondered if I specify that I worked with the L1 employer till APRIL 2006, would they catch this?? Even if they catch , how big an issue would this be??
If I put the dates to reflect the dates to show that I quit my L1 employer in Oct 2005 itself, would this be an issue?? I guess in this case, if by any chance they ask for any further evidence like pay stubs or W2 in that period of time, I would be in trouble.
Any advice is appreciated. I'm afraid to talk about this to my current company attorney....
Thanks.
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rahul2699
05-13 09:33 AM
Please check the thread http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum16-iv-agenda-and-legislative-updates/184288-from-iv-access-to-donor-forum-issues.html
You would need to provide your information as directed by Starsun in the first post. Starsun has been keeping unwell these days and verifying information periodically. However within a few days, you would be added to the donor forum upon verification.
In the meantime, please join your state chapters and get active. ImmigrationVoice.org - Immigration Voice State Chapters (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=72&Itemid=52)
Thanks. I've done that yesterday (sending e-mail)..I guess i need to be little more patient
You would need to provide your information as directed by Starsun in the first post. Starsun has been keeping unwell these days and verifying information periodically. However within a few days, you would be added to the donor forum upon verification.
In the meantime, please join your state chapters and get active. ImmigrationVoice.org - Immigration Voice State Chapters (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=72&Itemid=52)
Thanks. I've done that yesterday (sending e-mail)..I guess i need to be little more patient

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ivar
04-29 04:35 PM
Filing the application to port as seperate after the 140 is approved assures the attorney & the employer of of 2 things:
1. The attorney gets more money for filing a seperate application.
2. The employer gets to keep you tied down longer since its likely that the USCIS wont know what to do when a seperate application is filed just to port the date. Its not a documented procedure (that I am aware of) in that you have to file Form I-xxx or whatever.
Best to port the PD at the time of filing the 140.
Disclaimer: I am EB3 and I havent tried porting my date to EB2. Just using my basic common sense.
Crazyghoda,
I am still waiting for my PERM but i had talked to my attorney regarding porting of my old priority date he says i will have to wait till i get my new I-140 approved. I am not sure how should i convince him to file I-140 and priority porting application together once i get my PERM approval. I need some strong documentation to support my statement if he denies doing both together. I tried googling but yet to find some document related to this.
Thank you.
1. The attorney gets more money for filing a seperate application.
2. The employer gets to keep you tied down longer since its likely that the USCIS wont know what to do when a seperate application is filed just to port the date. Its not a documented procedure (that I am aware of) in that you have to file Form I-xxx or whatever.
Best to port the PD at the time of filing the 140.
Disclaimer: I am EB3 and I havent tried porting my date to EB2. Just using my basic common sense.
Crazyghoda,
I am still waiting for my PERM but i had talked to my attorney regarding porting of my old priority date he says i will have to wait till i get my new I-140 approved. I am not sure how should i convince him to file I-140 and priority porting application together once i get my PERM approval. I need some strong documentation to support my statement if he denies doing both together. I tried googling but yet to find some document related to this.
Thank you.
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06-27 12:21 PM
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Nitu Singh
06-12 07:31 PM
My 5th year on H1 will be completed in end of June 2007. I got my labor certification(EB-3) and I-140 approved and didn't apply for I-485. As my I-140 is approved, I recently applied for 3 year extension. The following are the few things I want clarify with you gurus:
1) Can I change the employer after I get my 3 year extension on H1 ?
2) If I change the employer and If I transfer my H1, Will I get 3 years on my H1 based on 140 approval?
3) After switching to new employer, if I start the GC process all over again, can I keep my old priority date?
4) I heard Gc process should be filed before expiry of 5th yr on H1 b, if i change my employer can i file for GC process in 6th yr and get furthur extension ?
I really appreciate your valuable inputs and help me out.
Thanks a lot!
1) Can I change the employer after I get my 3 year extension on H1 ?
2) If I change the employer and If I transfer my H1, Will I get 3 years on my H1 based on 140 approval?
3) After switching to new employer, if I start the GC process all over again, can I keep my old priority date?
4) I heard Gc process should be filed before expiry of 5th yr on H1 b, if i change my employer can i file for GC process in 6th yr and get furthur extension ?
I really appreciate your valuable inputs and help me out.
Thanks a lot!
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makemygc
10-20 07:47 AM
I would appreciate, if any of you can answer this question either through their personal experience or their knowledge.
I recently got my H1b visa renewed(& transferred) for 3 years based on a previous I-140 approved from my earlier job. I would like to get my H1b visa stamping done either at Mexico or Canada based on the current validity(for 3 years) of my H1b approval. If after stamping, I change companies will I need to get a new stamping to reflect the new company on my passport? If I don't need to get a new stamping, then if I travel to my home country and then return to US, will it cause a problem at the border post if my H1b approval paper shows a different company than that on the passport? Your advice in this regard would be greatly appreciated.
You don't need to restamp as long as your stamped visa on the passport is valid. I've done it myself and just carried the employment letter and tha fat H1 transfer package with me..No issues. While entering back into US, they just asked me about the H1 transfer approval letter and that package. Only think you need to make sure that when you are coming back, your H1 should be valid, no matter which company is it from.
I recently got my H1b visa renewed(& transferred) for 3 years based on a previous I-140 approved from my earlier job. I would like to get my H1b visa stamping done either at Mexico or Canada based on the current validity(for 3 years) of my H1b approval. If after stamping, I change companies will I need to get a new stamping to reflect the new company on my passport? If I don't need to get a new stamping, then if I travel to my home country and then return to US, will it cause a problem at the border post if my H1b approval paper shows a different company than that on the passport? Your advice in this regard would be greatly appreciated.
You don't need to restamp as long as your stamped visa on the passport is valid. I've done it myself and just carried the employment letter and tha fat H1 transfer package with me..No issues. While entering back into US, they just asked me about the H1 transfer approval letter and that package. Only think you need to make sure that when you are coming back, your H1 should be valid, no matter which company is it from.
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Rajeev
10-29 05:16 PM
To all the folks that attended the conference at YMCA Center in Woodbridge, NJ on Oct 28th,
Thanks for participating . Please provide your feedback on the meeting i.e What you liked and what you didn't like. This will help us for the future meetings.
Also please become more active and urge you friends and colleagues to become more active in NJ state chapter.
Any suggestion on promoting our cause will be greatly appreciated:
Some of the areas to think about are:
a) How often we should hold such conferences?
b) What other topics we should include. ( For example Financial planning for the community, given the uncertainity in the process)?
c) In what way we together can help increase our number?
d) etc...etc...
The meeting was very well organized. Q&A session with Attorney Prashanti Reddy was very useful. Here are my suggestions:
a) We can have these conferences every two months or whenever core thinks so.
b) I think we should stick to immigration.
c) Earlier 'Invite a friend/Add a member' campaigns were very successful as compared to flyer/poster campaign.
Thanks for participating . Please provide your feedback on the meeting i.e What you liked and what you didn't like. This will help us for the future meetings.
Also please become more active and urge you friends and colleagues to become more active in NJ state chapter.
Any suggestion on promoting our cause will be greatly appreciated:
Some of the areas to think about are:
a) How often we should hold such conferences?
b) What other topics we should include. ( For example Financial planning for the community, given the uncertainity in the process)?
c) In what way we together can help increase our number?
d) etc...etc...
The meeting was very well organized. Q&A session with Attorney Prashanti Reddy was very useful. Here are my suggestions:
a) We can have these conferences every two months or whenever core thinks so.
b) I think we should stick to immigration.
c) Earlier 'Invite a friend/Add a member' campaigns were very successful as compared to flyer/poster campaign.
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MerciesOfInjustices
02-19 02:51 AM
DLs are all managed at State level, but there is an effort to standardize it. My wife applied for DL/Learner's permit in AZ. We had H4 valid thru Aug 31, and an extension starting Sep 1, but they refused to give us the extended period. Their explanation - the software would not allow it. They could not enter information based on 2 documents because the Notice of the extension did not become effective till Sep 1. We had to go back & get it extended, and they did it without another test. But we had to pay another fee.
And, I basically got a lifetime DL because I had applied way back in the good old days, 1998!
And, I basically got a lifetime DL because I had applied way back in the good old days, 1998!
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eb3retro
03-11 11:59 PM
No probs, we owe as much for all the hours you have put in with the EB number analysis.
But why don't you still talk to your lawyer about the blank line 14? In my case my educational qualifications were listed and so on.
check this out from www.immigration-law.com website.
03/12/2006: Comprehensive Immigration Reform: EB-2 vs. EB-3: Time to Consider Filing of Concurrent EB-2 and EB-3 I-140 Petitions?
* All of the comprehensive immigration reform bills in the Senate except the border security bills propose to increase the annual EB-3 numbers substantially. On the other hand, these bills propose to reduce annual allocation for EB-2 in terms of the percentage. When combining EB-3 for skilled workers/professionals with EB-3EW for unskilled workers, the combined EB-3 will run as high as 60% plus and minus. Besides, should Sen. Brownback amendment be legislated into law, a large number of nurses/physical therapists will be taken out of the burden in the EB-3 visa numbers. In the BECs, there still remain a huge number of mostly EB-3 cases including unskilled workers which will take out the immigrant visa numbers in the future, probably before the summer of year 2008. Still, 60+ of the total "increased" employment-based immigrant visa numbers must add upto a large number. Contrary to this trend, a large number of cases are filed in the EB-2 category these days. Considering the fact that EB-2 numbers may be reduced or maintain at the current level at best, EB-2 visa numbers may increasingly face the pressure.
* We hope that the history will not repeat itself. In the 1990s, there was a time when the EB-2 numbers were more oversubscribed than EB-3 for China. One may wonder whether it is time for the EB immigrants who attain the EB-2 labor certification to consider filing of EB-2 and EB-3 I-140 petitions concurrently or sequentially against the situation which reveal worse oversubscription of EB-2 over EB-3, particularly P.R. China. EB-2 labor certification is eligible for both EB-2 I-140 petition and EB-3 I-140 petition. It is a matter of paying additional $195 filing fees. Something to think about.
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all i am saying is whether u r in eb1 or 2 or 3, we are all in a deep sh**t of this retrogression, you would never know, whether its good or bad being in a certain category in GC process, cos, most of the process su***s according to me. my perception is , if u have job in this country u work, and in this period, if u get ur GC, its good, if not, its not our fault. We are doing our part by supporting organisations like IV. But there is so much anti-immigration scentiments out these days, we get defeated so easily (eg S.1932). Work with IV and leave the rest to time.
my 2 cents..
But why don't you still talk to your lawyer about the blank line 14? In my case my educational qualifications were listed and so on.
check this out from www.immigration-law.com website.
03/12/2006: Comprehensive Immigration Reform: EB-2 vs. EB-3: Time to Consider Filing of Concurrent EB-2 and EB-3 I-140 Petitions?
* All of the comprehensive immigration reform bills in the Senate except the border security bills propose to increase the annual EB-3 numbers substantially. On the other hand, these bills propose to reduce annual allocation for EB-2 in terms of the percentage. When combining EB-3 for skilled workers/professionals with EB-3EW for unskilled workers, the combined EB-3 will run as high as 60% plus and minus. Besides, should Sen. Brownback amendment be legislated into law, a large number of nurses/physical therapists will be taken out of the burden in the EB-3 visa numbers. In the BECs, there still remain a huge number of mostly EB-3 cases including unskilled workers which will take out the immigrant visa numbers in the future, probably before the summer of year 2008. Still, 60+ of the total "increased" employment-based immigrant visa numbers must add upto a large number. Contrary to this trend, a large number of cases are filed in the EB-2 category these days. Considering the fact that EB-2 numbers may be reduced or maintain at the current level at best, EB-2 visa numbers may increasingly face the pressure.
* We hope that the history will not repeat itself. In the 1990s, there was a time when the EB-2 numbers were more oversubscribed than EB-3 for China. One may wonder whether it is time for the EB immigrants who attain the EB-2 labor certification to consider filing of EB-2 and EB-3 I-140 petitions concurrently or sequentially against the situation which reveal worse oversubscription of EB-2 over EB-3, particularly P.R. China. EB-2 labor certification is eligible for both EB-2 I-140 petition and EB-3 I-140 petition. It is a matter of paying additional $195 filing fees. Something to think about.
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all i am saying is whether u r in eb1 or 2 or 3, we are all in a deep sh**t of this retrogression, you would never know, whether its good or bad being in a certain category in GC process, cos, most of the process su***s according to me. my perception is , if u have job in this country u work, and in this period, if u get ur GC, its good, if not, its not our fault. We are doing our part by supporting organisations like IV. But there is so much anti-immigration scentiments out these days, we get defeated so easily (eg S.1932). Work with IV and leave the rest to time.
my 2 cents..
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engineer
07-23 10:28 AM
can one ask NSC and see if they have cashed check > they should be able to tell us by our last , frist name, social security etc ?
Where is the link of USCIS memo which talks about following
"There was a memo from USCIS for in-time receipt compliance for I-485 ( along with other forms) for 8/1 supposedly for June filers."
Where is the link of USCIS memo which talks about following
"There was a memo from USCIS for in-time receipt compliance for I-485 ( along with other forms) for 8/1 supposedly for June filers."
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anilsal
07-16 05:12 PM
That could explain why NSC never got the memo. Remember only EB I-485 is in question.
Isn't it the other way around?
Isn't it the other way around?
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07-17 07:54 PM
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desi3933
04-06 03:11 PM
You can see many denials for 3 year degree people in various forums including IV.
I have one copy of the denial of my friend in hand. (AAO appeal in progress) It is 3+1+2=6, still they denied for EB2.
.....
You have not still answered my question for official source or link for your claim. I don't care how third party evaluator evaluates. I have seen so many varying evaluations done.
By theoritical no problem, if you have credits equal to US bachelors and masters degrees.....
Also, your calculation 3+1+2=6 is incorrect. Since this is BSc+BEd+MSc. For MSc, BEd is not needed and therefore you can't add time spent for BEd. Just like two BSc degrees do not make it equivalent to MSc.
If this one year program is not BEd, but "post graduate" diploma, still it is not going to work, since that "diploma" is not required for MSc.
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Not a legal advice.
I have one copy of the denial of my friend in hand. (AAO appeal in progress) It is 3+1+2=6, still they denied for EB2.
.....
You have not still answered my question for official source or link for your claim. I don't care how third party evaluator evaluates. I have seen so many varying evaluations done.
By theoritical no problem, if you have credits equal to US bachelors and masters degrees.....
Also, your calculation 3+1+2=6 is incorrect. Since this is BSc+BEd+MSc. For MSc, BEd is not needed and therefore you can't add time spent for BEd. Just like two BSc degrees do not make it equivalent to MSc.
If this one year program is not BEd, but "post graduate" diploma, still it is not going to work, since that "diploma" is not required for MSc.
_________________
Not a legal advice.
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11-19 10:28 AM
Thanks for the information. On november 9, 2007, I called using other options and CSR level 2 took my data to begin a report. Today, I followed your instructions to check if there was a more effective way to obtain an aswer, but I am really dissapointed. CSR used my name to look in their system. The only thing that she could found was my H visa application. She never mentioned that there was an investigation due to my call of november 9. Finally she just asked me to wait 30 more days, and neven mention the option to place a report.
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InMess
02-22 09:34 AM
Hi Guys i need some advice/help on my I-140 denial.
I have US masters and 4+years of US job experience and My I-140 was filed in EB2 using a Substitution labor which as the education/experience requirements of (14) Masters+1years experience or (15) Bachelors + 3Years Experience and it was denied without RFE saying the Labor certfication used is not suitable for EB2 as they say EB2 labor should be requiring "Masters or BS+5Years Exp", which makes sense.
So what are my options now
1. Can my attorney file an MTR and request the USCIS to consider mine as a EB3 case, if requested what are the chances of USCIS approving my I-140.
2. Once the MTR is filed to convert from EB2 to EB3, what is the present status of my 485/EAD/AP/FP
3. If the USCIS is okay converting from EB2 to EB3, will the same application's applied ealier for 485/EAD/AP/FP are valid or not?
4. My wife has used her EAD and she is doing a full time job, so now as my I-140 is denied and if an MTR is filed in next few days can she still continue the same job until the decision is made on the I-140 and 485.
5. My wife has an H1 also, so as she used her EAD(which came as my dependent) not with the company which hold's her H1, in this case what would be the status of her H1, can she quit her present job and do another job using her H1, is that H1 still valid.
Thank you all for your advices and help.
I have US masters and 4+years of US job experience and My I-140 was filed in EB2 using a Substitution labor which as the education/experience requirements of (14) Masters+1years experience or (15) Bachelors + 3Years Experience and it was denied without RFE saying the Labor certfication used is not suitable for EB2 as they say EB2 labor should be requiring "Masters or BS+5Years Exp", which makes sense.
So what are my options now
1. Can my attorney file an MTR and request the USCIS to consider mine as a EB3 case, if requested what are the chances of USCIS approving my I-140.
2. Once the MTR is filed to convert from EB2 to EB3, what is the present status of my 485/EAD/AP/FP
3. If the USCIS is okay converting from EB2 to EB3, will the same application's applied ealier for 485/EAD/AP/FP are valid or not?
4. My wife has used her EAD and she is doing a full time job, so now as my I-140 is denied and if an MTR is filed in next few days can she still continue the same job until the decision is made on the I-140 and 485.
5. My wife has an H1 also, so as she used her EAD(which came as my dependent) not with the company which hold's her H1, in this case what would be the status of her H1, can she quit her present job and do another job using her H1, is that H1 still valid.
Thank you all for your advices and help.
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GCHope2011
08-07 02:48 PM
Issued in public interest
Ever since Department of State (DOS) has issued visa bulletins having significant progression of something, what is known as a priority date in certain categories, COLTS has made a comeback to the immigrant community.
For the uninitiated, COLTS stands for Compulsive Obsessive LUD Tracking Syndrome. Surprisingly, it is somehow associated with DOS's monthly visa bulletin and often lags the bulletin by 15-20days after the issuance of the same. It's highly contagious. The only antidote to COLTS known to the humankind is CPO, Welcome or other such emails from USCIS. It doesn't go into full remission until a physical GC is to the sufferer's hands. COLTS as a epidemic generally subsides when DOS severely retrogresses what is known as a priority date but raises its ugly head when the same progresses again.
The symptoms of COLTS is several. The sufferer is often seen logging to the USCIS.GOV site with increasing frequency and making status searches every few minutes. It raises the level of angst when the antidote (as explained earlier) is not received. Sometimes it proves to be a predecessor to other syndromes such as CUPOJMS (Calling USCIS by Prince Of Justice Method Syndrome) , OSRS (Opening Service Request Syndrome), TIAS (Taking Infopass Appointment Syndrome) and CYCS (Contact Your Congressman Syndrome). The good news is, the antidote can correct all these syndromes at once.
Immigrants from ROW (Rest Of World) seem to be immune from it. But immigrants from highly subscribed countries such as India and China have been found to be particularly susceptible.
The last time this epidemic was of such ghastly proportions was in 2008 and that time too, it was known to lag the DOS visa bulletin which had significantly progressed the priority dates. Since the connection between the bulletin and the syndrome has already been proved beyond doubt, it's very surprising that DOS has not learnt its lessons and instead of slowly progressing the dates which will desensitize the sufferers, it is still progressing or retrogressing the dates by months, sometime by years.
Your truly has the fast hand experience of suffering from the syndrome. Being abused and victimized by the visa system in early immigranthood, he developed the syndrome with the issuance of August 2010 visa bulletin. Only after the antidote arrived on August 3rd, did he made a sound recovery and was able to pen this.
The immigrant community is advised to keep it under check and wait till the antidote arrives from USCIS.
Good one!! Congratulations!! We wait for our respective antidotes to arrive some day.... as the oldie song goes - "aayega, aayegaa, aayega... aayega aane waala, aayegaa" :)
Ever since Department of State (DOS) has issued visa bulletins having significant progression of something, what is known as a priority date in certain categories, COLTS has made a comeback to the immigrant community.
For the uninitiated, COLTS stands for Compulsive Obsessive LUD Tracking Syndrome. Surprisingly, it is somehow associated with DOS's monthly visa bulletin and often lags the bulletin by 15-20days after the issuance of the same. It's highly contagious. The only antidote to COLTS known to the humankind is CPO, Welcome or other such emails from USCIS. It doesn't go into full remission until a physical GC is to the sufferer's hands. COLTS as a epidemic generally subsides when DOS severely retrogresses what is known as a priority date but raises its ugly head when the same progresses again.
The symptoms of COLTS is several. The sufferer is often seen logging to the USCIS.GOV site with increasing frequency and making status searches every few minutes. It raises the level of angst when the antidote (as explained earlier) is not received. Sometimes it proves to be a predecessor to other syndromes such as CUPOJMS (Calling USCIS by Prince Of Justice Method Syndrome) , OSRS (Opening Service Request Syndrome), TIAS (Taking Infopass Appointment Syndrome) and CYCS (Contact Your Congressman Syndrome). The good news is, the antidote can correct all these syndromes at once.
Immigrants from ROW (Rest Of World) seem to be immune from it. But immigrants from highly subscribed countries such as India and China have been found to be particularly susceptible.
The last time this epidemic was of such ghastly proportions was in 2008 and that time too, it was known to lag the DOS visa bulletin which had significantly progressed the priority dates. Since the connection between the bulletin and the syndrome has already been proved beyond doubt, it's very surprising that DOS has not learnt its lessons and instead of slowly progressing the dates which will desensitize the sufferers, it is still progressing or retrogressing the dates by months, sometime by years.
Your truly has the fast hand experience of suffering from the syndrome. Being abused and victimized by the visa system in early immigranthood, he developed the syndrome with the issuance of August 2010 visa bulletin. Only after the antidote arrived on August 3rd, did he made a sound recovery and was able to pen this.
The immigrant community is advised to keep it under check and wait till the antidote arrives from USCIS.
Good one!! Congratulations!! We wait for our respective antidotes to arrive some day.... as the oldie song goes - "aayega, aayegaa, aayega... aayega aane waala, aayegaa" :)
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02-04 10:39 PM
Thx gapala, wandmaker and lostingcprocess... Appreciate your prompt response.
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Houstonguy
08-11 09:02 AM
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